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if the issue is deficit reduction, getting our deficits sustainable over time, getting our debt in a sustainable place, then democrats and republicans in congress will have a partner with me. we can achieve that and we can achieve it fairly quickly. we know what the numbers are, we know what needs to be done. we know what a balanced approach would take, and we've already done probably more than half of the deficit reduction we need to stabilize the debt and the deficit. there's probably been more pain and drama in getting there than we needed. and so finishing the job shouldn't be that difficult, if everybody comes to the conversation with an open mind and if there's some things like paying our bills should not be out of bounds. i'll take one last question. >> mr. president, i would like to ask you, now that you've reached the end of your first term, starting your second, about a couple of criticisms. one that's long-standing, another more recent. the long-standing one seems to become a truism of sorts, that you and your staff are too insular, that you don't socialize enough. and the
if the issue is deficit reduction, getting our deficits sustainable over time, getting our debt in a sustainable place, then democrats and republicans in congress will have a partner with me. we can achieve that and we can achieve it fairly quickly. we know what the numbers are, we know what needs to be done. we know what a balanced approach would take, and we've already done probably more than half of the deficit reduction we need to stabilize the debt and the deficit. there's probably been...
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must tackle its debt and deficit problems. that is why there must be spending decreases, something they say wasn't a part of the deal the president just signed to avert, at least some of the fiscal cliff. tracy: here we go again. if february 15th is the big day, that would mean your poor wife will probably be alone on valentine's day, rich edson. god bless you. >> there are worse things. tracy: buy her a box of chocolate. >>> with earnings season getting in full swing this week our next guest says results could provide a base for the market to move higher especially because expectations are so darn low. joining us, margie battle, wells fargo advantage funds senior portfolio manager. earnings are low but doesn't bode well for what we'll hear out of these companies, does it? >> well i think some companies have done some preannouncements where they're expecting their growth to slow down because we should have some pretty low gdp growth for the next several months because of all the uncertainty. however, most companies have high c
must tackle its debt and deficit problems. that is why there must be spending decreases, something they say wasn't a part of the deal the president just signed to avert, at least some of the fiscal cliff. tracy: here we go again. if february 15th is the big day, that would mean your poor wife will probably be alone on valentine's day, rich edson. god bless you. >> there are worse things. tracy: buy her a box of chocolate. >>> with earnings season getting in full swing this week...
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. >> megyn: and my last question for you quickly he's put in place, 3.25 in place of deficit reduction, a little short of 4 trillion we need, but he would have the american public believe he's significantly reduced our deficit as president. >> which makes you wonder why we need another 2 trillion dollars so desperately now as we are getting ready for the beginning of his second term. obviously, that's 2 1/2 trillion that is, well, fanciful in my opinion and ethereal in others and it's not a reduction in baseline, it's a reduction in the rate of growth of spending, which is again suffocating to the private economy and unsustainable over the course of the next several years. >> megyn: one thing we did hear the president reference personally, we heard it from nancy pelosi prior, but the president personally talking about now closing more loopholes and that means higher taxes. we don't know on who, but he would not specify any specific spending reductions and refusing to negotiate with the house republicans on the issue of the debt ceiling. lou, an interesting couple of months. looking for
. >> megyn: and my last question for you quickly he's put in place, 3.25 in place of deficit reduction, a little short of 4 trillion we need, but he would have the american public believe he's significantly reduced our deficit as president. >> which makes you wonder why we need another 2 trillion dollars so desperately now as we are getting ready for the beginning of his second term. obviously, that's 2 1/2 trillion that is, well, fanciful in my opinion and ethereal in others and...
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not when it comes to our nation's finances, but this trust deficit in washington. the republicans, you have the president, doing this, boom, and just how is this even going to play out over the next couple of weeks? >> well, you have the debt ceiling, which is the current fight. and what you have is confrontation, not conversation. how is it going to play out? again, the president believes he has the political high ground now and he believes he's -- he believes his position is right. that you don't want to negotiate over the debt ceiling, let's have a bigger conversation. the republicans, they control the house of representatives, they still have a decent chunk of votes, the democrats control the senate, they say no way, sir. and so you have this fight over the debt ceiling, but it is about bigger issues. the debt ceiling has nothing to do with immigration reform, nothing to do with the proposals on gun control, nothing to do with anything else the president might want to do in his second term, but guess what, it does affect the climate in washington. and the fact
not when it comes to our nation's finances, but this trust deficit in washington. the republicans, you have the president, doing this, boom, and just how is this even going to play out over the next couple of weeks? >> well, you have the debt ceiling, which is the current fight. and what you have is confrontation, not conversation. how is it going to play out? again, the president believes he has the political high ground now and he believes he's -- he believes his position is right. that...
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there's actually been several rounds of deficit reduction worth reviewing. back in 2010 and '11, they put a bunch of continuing resolutions or kind of spending caps onto mostly discretionary programs. in 2011 when we had the debt ceiling debacle, they agreed to the budget control act which was another billion dollars, roughly, of cuts. again, mostly from if not entirely from discretionary programs. and then, of course, we had the fiscal cliff which was $650 billion of revenue increases. so so far, we've actually had $2.4 trillion over a ten-year period of deficit reduction. but about 30% of it has come from rev lienue increases and at the other 70% from come from spending cuts. entirely from discretionary programs. >> what's the budget control act? >> it's what came out of the last debt ceiling debacle when the republicans and the democrats agreed on this trillion dollars of roughly discretionary -- all discretionary spending reductions. but the point is, none of this really touches entitlements. none of it touches the mandatory. and its $2.4 trillion. >> wh
there's actually been several rounds of deficit reduction worth reviewing. back in 2010 and '11, they put a bunch of continuing resolutions or kind of spending caps onto mostly discretionary programs. in 2011 when we had the debt ceiling debacle, they agreed to the budget control act which was another billion dollars, roughly, of cuts. again, mostly from if not entirely from discretionary programs. and then, of course, we had the fiscal cliff which was $650 billion of revenue increases. so so...
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violent neighborhoods, poverty, homelessness, food insufficiency, you just can't overcome those kind of deficits by providing head start education program. so that's where the book began. and most o the people advised me said, well, it's a very interesting book. i'm sure you'll get on fox tv. my goal was not to be a critic. i said, let me do part two of the book, to calm people down and say there are some social programs that are quite effective, and maybe we can learn a lesson from them. the big quiz that in the course of writing the book i conducted and bored to death my wife and my children, was, let me sit down with everybody i know and tell me the three government programs that have been the most effective in, say, the last 65 years. almost every one of my academy friends would say head start and i would say, wrong. no evidence it works. the most effective government program is in sort of chronological order, social security, the g.i. bill, 1944, and medicare in 1965. now, there will be some pushback about that. even u.s.a. today had an editorial today that said social security is a pay as
violent neighborhoods, poverty, homelessness, food insufficiency, you just can't overcome those kind of deficits by providing head start education program. so that's where the book began. and most o the people advised me said, well, it's a very interesting book. i'm sure you'll get on fox tv. my goal was not to be a critic. i said, let me do part two of the book, to calm people down and say there are some social programs that are quite effective, and maybe we can learn a lesson from them. the...
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they have had multibillion-dollar deficits in the past. what i like to do, some of my friends who don't believe taxes matter including the guy in the white house, i say if you don't think taxes matter and affect behavior, explain to me, bill, why it is there has been about 500,000 new jobs over the last 10 years created in texas with no income tax and where california lost about 500,000 jobs? there is lot of factors but i think taxes are one of them. bill: 13% for california. if that is the case they leapfrogged hawaii. matt, give you the last point. if bobby jindal gets his way do folks in louisiana have a better chance at tracking jobs? >> absolutely yes. look at call to, what jerry brown is doing is short-term fix. bringing money by increasing taxes but the long-term effect jobs will leave, people will leave and hurt the economy long term. bill: matt, thank you. steve moore, thank you as well. e-mail is hemmer@foxnews.com. viewers on home on twitter that follow me, @billhemmer, file your one word, not one word, one line. martha: one wor
they have had multibillion-dollar deficits in the past. what i like to do, some of my friends who don't believe taxes matter including the guy in the white house, i say if you don't think taxes matter and affect behavior, explain to me, bill, why it is there has been about 500,000 new jobs over the last 10 years created in texas with no income tax and where california lost about 500,000 jobs? there is lot of factors but i think taxes are one of them. bill: 13% for california. if that is the...
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and japan famously has run deficits year after year. and it has a level of debt that is about twice what we've got as a share of gdp. and people have been predicting financial catastrophe for japan year after year for ten years or more. they've had downgrades. their debt was downgraded in 2002 by the major rating agencies. and everybody who believed those warnings and everybody -- has lost a lot of money. so it turns out that if you're an advanced country with its own currency and a reasonably stable government, you have a lot of running room on these things. so am i worried? yeah, i mean, i am worried about the u.s. fiscal situation 20 years from now. we do have a problem of health care costs and so on. but, you know, i'm worried about a lot of other things 20 years as well. i'm not sure that even if you take that long term perspective, that the budget should be at the top of your list of things to be afraid of. i'm a lot more afraid, actually, of the great -- the entire southwest of the united states turning into a dustbowl because of
and japan famously has run deficits year after year. and it has a level of debt that is about twice what we've got as a share of gdp. and people have been predicting financial catastrophe for japan year after year for ten years or more. they've had downgrades. their debt was downgraded in 2002 by the major rating agencies. and everybody who believed those warnings and everybody -- has lost a lot of money. so it turns out that if you're an advanced country with its own currency and a reasonably...
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and ironically, would probably increase our deficit. so to even entertain the idea of this happening, of the united states of america not paying its bills, is irresponsible. it's absurd. we are not a deadbeat nation. >> thank goodness. but next, news flash, we already hit the ceiling two weeks ago. and the treasury's been using, quote, extraordinary measures to pay its bills. what does that even mean? the money shuffle can't last forever. the u.s. is out of money to pay its bills, it's already spent in less than four weeks. i have cousins that do that. they play to hold the debt ceiling hostage. aides say half the conference is ready to let the nation default. speaker boehner will school them on the real threat later this week. even a temporary extension for, say, two or three months could rattle the markets and threaten the nation's credit rating. last time they hashled out a debt deal? summer of 2011 and we ended up more than a trillion dollars in mandatory spending cuts and congress still hasn't addressed and delayed again until marc
and ironically, would probably increase our deficit. so to even entertain the idea of this happening, of the united states of america not paying its bills, is irresponsible. it's absurd. we are not a deadbeat nation. >> thank goodness. but next, news flash, we already hit the ceiling two weeks ago. and the treasury's been using, quote, extraordinary measures to pay its bills. what does that even mean? the money shuffle can't last forever. the u.s. is out of money to pay its bills, it's...
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i think a lot of what they complain about with respect to us, for example, our large fiscal deficits, one example, i think it would be in our interest to deal with. similarly, a lot of what we complain about with respect to them, their export-driven strategy, the absence of domestic demand, it's critically important to have sustainable growth going forward to deal with that issue. so i think we have a common self interest in dealing with many of the issues that we complain to each other about. >> what should be the core elements of a u.s.-china relationship going forward? >> the core elements of a cooperative u.s.-chinese relationship is in many respects in the communique by presidents obama and jintao of china, itemizing and developing several ears to be koob rating because it sets a framework, a framework in which the word partnership is really given meaning and a framework for something unprecedented in the history of human affairs, namely, when two major powers arise, they almost never collide. for the first time in history, america and china have the opportunity to avoid that, to
i think a lot of what they complain about with respect to us, for example, our large fiscal deficits, one example, i think it would be in our interest to deal with. similarly, a lot of what we complain about with respect to them, their export-driven strategy, the absence of domestic demand, it's critically important to have sustainable growth going forward to deal with that issue. so i think we have a common self interest in dealing with many of the issues that we complain to each other about....
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deficit would go up. i mean, we're talking about a very punishing thing that will affect american people who had nothing to do with what they're trying to object to or deal with. >> you oo >> you're absolutely right. congress spent that money. they spent it. whether they liked it or not, they were the ones who spent it. but it's more important than that. it's what you point out. the stakes here are really high for the republican party. far be it from you to advise the republican party. but if i did, i would say stay away from shutting the government down. stay away from letting the debt ceiling not be raised because those are things that the american people will hate. they'll hate us defaulting onli blame you for it. they'll hate us shutting the government down. if you want to make a stand, make it in the sequester. the sequester has a lot of things that are painful to the democrats and the president. that's the place to plak the stand. and, look, everyone agrees, every rational person agrees with michael
deficit would go up. i mean, we're talking about a very punishing thing that will affect american people who had nothing to do with what they're trying to object to or deal with. >> you oo >> you're absolutely right. congress spent that money. they spent it. whether they liked it or not, they were the ones who spent it. but it's more important than that. it's what you point out. the stakes here are really high for the republican party. far be it from you to advise the republican...